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Post by Lilli M. Naryune on Aug 30, 2011 8:17:41 GMT -5
Also, just in case...
"Greed is an excessive desire to possess wealth or goods with the intention to keep it for one's self. Greed is inappropriate expectation. However, greed is applied to a very excessive or rapacious desire and pursuit of wealth, status, and power. As a secular psychological concept, greed is an inordinate desire to acquire or possess more than one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth."
Taken from Wikipedia.
Regards, Lilli.
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Post by Lunatiq on Aug 30, 2011 15:28:40 GMT -5
I'm just having some fun debating with my old friend Aod , cuz i think only me and Aod got a chance to win . As Kanzo said greedy doest mean bad , we are having a mini event to choose the greediest. No worries , i will giving out some prize. Btw having more ppl to join is more fun than only between me and Aod. Since greedy come from all walks of life, i think we can include Lilli as well. So I had told Lilli to join us.Although Lilli said she isnt greedy and she is nice.
And some question will be ask as usual.
1) Lilli you said you are not same like us but may i ask you.... Why are you scamming gold coins offer and done some excessive muling for the in game quest item?As you would had know .. we deeply shun upon muling especially among the old and respected players and the scamming of gold coins offers which is worst.... deeply hurting Mirror Realms in the root , Who is going to buy gold coins if you can get massive amounts for free?
So the question is ... Can you explain to us this is not blatant ignorant and greedy?
ps: Btw you are right we are not same , we will not do such things.
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Post by angelofdeath on Aug 30, 2011 16:19:55 GMT -5
ok guys this is my opinion of the people i listed masaki is correct it was bottled up emotions and just had to get it out. =p its my opinion like it or not its how i see you. its ok if you dont like it becaus elike i just said its my opinion. yes most players are very very greedy and im no acception. lol im prob one of the most greedy but i do give items away sometimes for no reason. ive gave about 60 zois and weps all together added up to a paragon. so id like to think i balanced it out. and also luna yu told me yu offered 2k for it i was actually planning on keeping the shield for myself for a while anyways before selling.just to clear up any miss communication. (:
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Post by Lilli M. Naryune on Aug 30, 2011 17:15:30 GMT -5
The truth is this.
It is the past. And this is my chance to go very deeply into my soul and reveal my intentions.
I haven't done any excessive muling. And i muled because i wanted to make all curing books ... ~ Remedy Book, Book of Fossil Remedies, and, in addition, Book of the Roadrunner.
Even when i did, it wasn't effective, here it goes with the Gold Coins, i can't buy them, i got them that way to get Fairy Wand, which is used to help others. My intention was to make it easier for self to be able to help sooner. Though there is one greedy thing i have done after the process, i did it for the good thing. I opened Golden Chests to get White Owl Necklaces to power the Fairy Wand. Because i only had the two charges provided with it.
Now, if someone greedy got G this way, what would the person most likely do? Also, it's same with muling. Most people mule for one intention.. For Power. To solo any boss with magic, to make all staves, in short to get overflowing amounts of magic to solo in towers... I muled solely for cures, because i was sad it's so hard to obtain them legitimately. I have no attack magic, and on top of that, i only have Fairy Wand and Healing Book, i do not use magic for self, try to blame me for that. Oh and trust was given to me, the guilt was erased, i gave some items to people in need, without being watched by Zorba if i did so.
I am on a way to become divine protector in the game, to protect people from diseases and keep them up standing, my intentions are a paragon of team-work, even though i used bad ways, i exchanged some of my other items(for the punishment). Sort of a knight.
Once when i towered with masaki, i asked him why he is not collecting iron from Tower II, he said that i'll understand when i'll get to the same point as him, and, tell you what... since that time i often started thinking up crazy and unlikely goals, but then, even today, i start forgetting all of it, i stay with one intention. Paragon Rapier is my greatest accomplishment, and i thank to my friends who helped me to make this unpopular weapon, it's the most valuable thing to me, and the kindness of my friends dwells in it. Nowadays, i am making other weapons, Lance and Whip, but they are not so important. The Rapier is something that shows my difference.
Now i'll answer the quest item part: It's as simple as this... I remembered what my real intentions described above were, and gave up on that shortly(and i mean very shortly). I would share it with copycat if i had it, not greedy so much or at all.
In the future, i want to let everyone present stand alive, iit surely needs many Sapphires, but Healing Feathers are a part of the arsenal, a very useful one, it's a replacement great enough, for now... but supply shortens.
In the future, i want to make everyone present feel happy without being annoyed from poison, stoning, freezing, paralysis .... It surely needs a lot of Emeralds and Diamons.
I am still weak and i can't help that much, but i still remember the funny moment when AoD teased me in t2 how epic i am with bows, while i was completely bad with them...When he got stoned at basilisk, i used a Scroll of Fossil Remedies... then he said that.. Lilli, i love you (comma puts apart two messages)
Yes, that made me laugh.
If you want to tell me i am greedy for muling for curing books and scamming G for cures, (Which is the past and the guilt was forgiven) which are intended to help my friends in the future, then i don't know what else to say. Just remember that i never wanted attack power in the form of gems.
~ Now you get to know my intentions more. I honestly want to be a pure healer, no one in PG is. .... yet.
My intentions listed here are the truth and i did regret my bad actions, they were for the good thing.
Regards, Lilli.
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Post by Lunatiq on Aug 30, 2011 18:31:01 GMT -5
Lilli...you have missed your recent muling of the quest items, which happen very recently.Everyone that mule there is a reason for it , from a seem unharmful action is actually hurting the funs of the games. And hurting more to people that play it legally than the positive effect by just healing them.
I wish i scam the offers and giving away xxxxgems xxx weapons . And giving the impression of generosity. But some people might not be as lucky . Kwula got her acc deleted, do you think she is bad and she dint help ppls?
Btw can i go muling and scamming if my intention is just to help ppls?
I love Pg as much you all do. Just in a very different ways. Its not enjoying when ppl is giving their opinion of you being a scammer , muler , greedy , loser , cheater when our ownself isnt much better.
Who are me to judge you Lilli? Aod?
I'm not divine , I'm rude and sometime I speak like Aod does.
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Post by angelofdeath on Aug 30, 2011 18:39:35 GMT -5
very well put luna, you speak like i do. It dosent have much affect on me because its just an opinion and you cant get along with everyone can you? no you cant not even zorba got along with everyone in PG believe it or not. Its my personal opinion of you all so dont take it like everyone thinks it because i am only one person.
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Post by Lilli M. Naryune on Aug 30, 2011 19:44:30 GMT -5
... I think i was clear enough when i explained it furthermore, i've stopped with everything you can ever blame me for and it's now the past.
I didn't say anything about you and it was your idea to include me in this.
Also, you apologized if it will hurt me, before. Next time, i won't be involved in such a thing.
I also liked to reveal my intensions to whoever reads this.
This is aod's thread anyways, it started about his opinions, what has it to do with me? He didn't even include me in the first place.
I haven't done anything for what i should be called greedy, and again, i myself didn't say you are, i am not sure where you got that.
No more discussion regarding me, please.
Regards, Lilli.
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Post by kanzo on Aug 30, 2011 21:23:13 GMT -5
im too lazy to read all ur post...too long lol
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Post by Zorba, The Leaf on Aug 31, 2011 0:53:27 GMT -5
AoD,
It's an honor to be called your "great friend". Thank you amigo.
"Greed" is not the right way to describe what you see in certain players. It's more complicated--and less pejorative--than that I think...
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Post by Lunatiq on Aug 31, 2011 2:20:21 GMT -5
everyone is greedy, so its pointless to agrue in this when u want to buy something, u wish to buy at low price better be 0.02 huh ? when ur going to sell something, u wish u can sell at a nice price gold coins is always needed, the higher the better. when ur going to trade, u wish others can give a nice offer better offer more than u expect, hahahaha when theres event, u wish u can be the winner everyone wants scartchcard items, dont tell me ur not interested in those... in my opinion, only one puppet is generous and not greedy also which is Silvervine others are just the same but no worries, greedy doesnt mean ur bad like i said before, i explain greedy as ambitions which improves a people to success, both in game and in real life. thats all I frequently give items to people. I only keep items which are truly important to me. For example i gave out a lot of elemental weapons, yesterday i gave Lightning Bows(don't ask me how i got them) to scrips and ryancard. but for example i wouldn't give my High Frost Halberd to anyone, i use it frequently or Wraiths in Shasura's Laboratory I have only 5 gems now, i had more... what has happened to them? I gave Absorbing Wand and Blue-eyed Gauntlet to Remi. That's what i gave out the most, and everyone who knows me also knows Sapphires are required for what i want to do.. to be a healer. I am not greedy, i just envy, and i envy a lot. To think more deeply, i am trying to save G to get my pet and Warehouse every month, because it's an important part of my playing. I wanted to open chests but i forgot about that, i don't want to ... If i had over 200g, i would give any Ruby/Tourmaline/Zoisite to one of my friends in need, but otherwise, i would not. How come i had Blizzard Staff, Poison Wand, Fire Wand, Thunder Wand, and so on, and today i just have Healing Book and Fairy Wand? You can't say i am greedy when i want to heal and cure. Thank you, for this discussion.... ...I am not the same! Regards, Lilli. From your latest post, seem there is still some question that i need to answer. I just released some facts and opinions when i saw your reply to Kanzo , which is a self glorifying , a goddess like reply. I dont know if your intention is to make an example for us or it was a PostScript to Zorba for your past action. But we need to work very hard for gems sometime using our hard earn real life money. So we really cant giving away gems frequently. But when i do , i put it in my heart. Zorba treat us all puppets very nice same like how he is treating you. No punishment for your action in the scams but still you being ungrateful . You make your muling action seem like a distance past but You still recently muled Gleipnir Fiber by creating and deleting new accounts repeating the quest in order to get the Gleipnir Fiber. I dont know what more fun we have by getting the fiber legally and in teamworks to defeat Fenril. You ruined the fun while at the same time speaking with high morals. Of course i'm sorry for having to drag you in as you are just a passer by in this thread. Which happen just to be the only thread i'm active in.
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Post by masaki123 on Aug 31, 2011 2:22:12 GMT -5
Lawl.What good you do cannot make up for what bad you do,and what bad you do cannot make up for what good you do,I always say. So even if you give out a paragon,Doesn't mean your not greedy,it just means that your helpful. Good cannot match Bad,their 2 different things.If you commit robbery to a big extent,but you give up your life to save a child from a crashing building,thats heroic,and it will be remembered. If you spent millions of dollars on charity,but in the end,you murder someone,in the end you will be remembered as a bad person. The 2 are opposing forces.You can't put water and fire together.To combine that would be like combining ying and yang. It would result in a uber mega explosion of cheese all around the universe. Although I get the feeling the human race has the tendency to see bad more than good.Can't help it.We're selfish by nature. The human in nature is greedy.In fact,the only 3 people I know who have ever existed in this world,to not have shown greediness,are Jesus Christ and Mahatma Gandhi,and as kanzo stated,Silvervine .And even then,One of them is not even mortal,the other has sure expressed some form of sin,the last,well,I don't think anyone really knows him extremely well.(XDjksilver) And you know the saying old habits die hard?Thats wrong.You gotta split it up into 2 terms.Personality and Nature.You can change your personality,but never in nature.Thats not for any mere mortal to decide.Not even zorba Although that doesnt mean he can't uberwhip you. That's a totally different story all together XD. One can never free oneself from sin.To do that would be a little bit like freeing one's nature.One can change a mortal personality,but never from nature. What we can do,however,is try to suppress it.Moderation is always the key.One can never have too much of one without the other. If you want to practice greed,we can't stop you.It's a free world.But do it in moderation.Don't betray your moral uprightness or friends,just for a pretty penny.Or a pretty nickel.Or a dime.You get the point Now,to sum it all up,for all those who are too lazy to read(XD),is that people gotta realize that everyone has their own faults(Heck,I'm having one of my superior comprehension of the universe episodes right now XD),and what do in righteousness can't make up for what you do in self righteousness,or vice versa. Hopefully you all will be able to understand this my amici! Peace off. (P.S. btw Lilli,Bingo)
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Post by Lilli M. Naryune on Aug 31, 2011 7:21:38 GMT -5
Luna, why are you still talking about the past?.
4 Gleipnir Fibers? Oh come on... It's the past.
it's an action done before the gold... you seem like it was not...
There are other people you can judge, not me. Please don't misunderstand my real point, i am the last one who you can judge for muling of the people who ever muled. It's the past.
I won't use my time here, why? to just get more misunderstanded answers?
No thanks. I refuse to reply any more
Say anything you want, think anyting you want about me, the reality does not have to be as it used to be in the past.
end of topic. please don't answer any more, it's for no use and could only lead to flaming.
Regards, Lilli.
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Post by inoob on Aug 31, 2011 8:26:41 GMT -5
If I could sum this up it would be...
WERE ALL FREAKING GREEDY!!!!
Some more than others... No need to make an Argument about it.. I scammed gold offers... I got my account frozen it's what I payed for greediness :/... Now Please stop it with the fighting and the big debates about greediness.. Be the bigger person and just leave it alone.
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Post by Lunatiq on Aug 31, 2011 10:32:27 GMT -5
I dont know why you are saying we are all freaking greedy. As i know only INoob which change his name to Flies got his acc frozen. I think Lilli is not greedy if she is ... her acc will be frozen too.
You want to stop debating greediness while coming here and summing all up as freaking greedy as you do? You can said that to me but..
Lilli is not same. Lilli is doing it for healing and curing while you do not.
Whatever IMule, IScam , IGreedy , IRegret . ISpam , IDivine IFrozen ILose, IPro ,IHeal , ICure , IHelp , IDontcare is saying from now on ,
I choose not to reply if that what we all want in the 1st place period
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Post by masaki123 on Aug 31, 2011 10:59:43 GMT -5
And yet only the shallow know themselves.
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